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SGTA Historical Battles
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SGTA Historical Battles
So, we got a bit off topic in another thread but we all thought this would be a good idea, get some SGTA members together and play some 'historical' battles.
Imagine 3 Tigers fighting 10 Shermans with 50% crews, historical modules and standard ammo
Discuss
Imagine 3 Tigers fighting 10 Shermans with 50% crews, historical modules and standard ammo
Discuss
Re: SGTA Historical Battles
I would love historical RNG.
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
I will link here some information found in the WoT forum on this:
Timetables and Front tables
Rules of the official WoT historical battle community
when at home i will try to do some more research because i would be interessted where these guys get the information what modules are allowed per tank....
Timetables and Front tables
Rules of the official WoT historical battle community
when at home i will try to do some more research because i would be interessted where these guys get the information what modules are allowed per tank....
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Some guns and engines can be searched through wikipedia.
Also, on the FTR blog every now and then there is some history story.
some sites(?):
http://english.battlefield.ru/tank-armament
http://ftr.wot-news.com/
http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/
Also, on the FTR blog every now and then there is some history story.
some sites(?):
http://english.battlefield.ru/tank-armament
http://ftr.wot-news.com/
http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
hiya,
It sounds like a ton of fun. Maybe PZ4 and T-34 against each other as well ?
The only issue is that Tigers were supposed to engage at distances of 2 KM if even further.
the biggest maps are 1 km and with a max spotting range of 445 M those M4's will swarm those Tigers in 10-15 secs .
We can always try it and see if it works out.
Cheerio
It sounds like a ton of fun. Maybe PZ4 and T-34 against each other as well ?
The only issue is that Tigers were supposed to engage at distances of 2 KM if even further.
the biggest maps are 1 km and with a max spotting range of 445 M those M4's will swarm those Tigers in 10-15 secs .
We can always try it and see if it works out.
Cheerio
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
What's held me back in the past is that outside of not being able to use the crews I spent so much time on, their rules don't allow any vehicle camo either. I spent gold on that :/ Same goes for equipment really.
I would love to participate, but I am not prepared to drop stuff I spent gold on to be able to.
I would love to participate, but I am not prepared to drop stuff I spent gold on to be able to.
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
flash64 wrote:hiya,
It sounds like a ton of fun. Maybe PZ4 and T-34 against each other as well ?
The only issue is that Tigers were supposed to engage at distances of 2 KM if even further.
the biggest maps are 1 km and with a max spotting range of 445 M those M4's will swarm those Tigers in 10-15 secs .
We can always try it and see if it works out.
Cheerio
stock engine and stock suspension for all tanks will do the job, lol.
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Bets thing to do is start off with low tiers that dont cost much see if it actually works.
Do a bit of digging and find some early tank battles we could do - maybe Germany vs France 1940 or something similar.
Do a bit of digging and find some early tank battles we could do - maybe Germany vs France 1940 or something similar.
Re: SGTA Historical Battles
example for a battle found:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hannut
French:
SOMUA S35
Hotchkiss H35
Germany:
PzKpfw I
PzKpfw II
PzKpfw III
PzKpfw IV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hannut
French:
SOMUA S35
Hotchkiss H35
Germany:
PzKpfw I
PzKpfw II
PzKpfw III
PzKpfw IV
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
hiya,
I am not sure but i think BEF had matilda's and cruisers as well in France in 1940.
cheerio
I am not sure but i think BEF had matilda's and cruisers as well in France in 1940.
cheerio
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
RoninRage wrote:example for a battle found:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hannut
French:
SOMUA S35
Hotchkiss H35
Germany:
PzKpfw I
PzKpfw II
PzKpfw III
PzKpfw IV
Looks interesting mate can you do some research to see what kind of modules the tanks would need? panzers and S/H35 outta be in reach of everyone
Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Yes just reading thru this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arras_(1940)
but I am sure there are more detailed sources than wikipedia ;-)
yes I will try to see if I find some details.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arras_(1940)
but I am sure there are more detailed sources than wikipedia ;-)
yes I will try to see if I find some details.
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
I think the Pz IV wouldnt have the right hulls for the 1940 circumstances. the 80mm front plate was a later variant, earlier ones used 30-50mm thought. don't know about the Pz III's 70mm front plate.
Edit: Pz III ausf A will do I think
Edit: Pz III ausf A will do I think
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
We might have to accept certain comprimises due to game limitations, this can be sorted when we write the rules. Just been looking at the french tree, most of what we need is tier 4 or lower. Some unlucky buggers might have to drive FT17s
Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Found some possible ressources on tank info (most of it for germans research for the french part might be a bit more difficult i think) saved the links but too braindead after work to go thru them today and write it together to post it ... have been going tanking now to be one of the thousands of braindead tankers out there.
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Dong760 wrote:
Imagine 3 Tigers fighting 10 Shermans
That's not fair, the shermans dont stand a chance. Historically a Tiger had a killrate of 10 shermans/tiger
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
nilzatron wrote:What's held me back in the past is that outside of not being able to use the crews I spent so much time on, their rules don't allow any vehicle camo either. I spent gold on that :/ Same goes for equipment really.
I would love to participate, but I am not prepared to drop stuff I spent gold on to be able to.
Well the rule of 50% is simply because big advantages like sixth sense or prolonged view range or repair skills can give and the 50% is for free. Maybe later we can try some challenges with trained crew, but for start its better to be equal on crew level.
Secondly, there is usually mentioned, that if you have equipment (or cammo), which have to be dropped by gold, you don’t have to. It will give you some advantage, but as most players use them too, it want be as big as highly trained/no trained crew. Only modules which are droppable (binos, camo net, rep. box), consumables (food, med kit, extinguisher, rep kit) and premium ammo are forbidden.
There even can be limitation on ammo load based on historical data, but we can address that later.
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
KV, KV-1s or Tiger without fire extinguisher... makes me think of something...
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
At the end of the day we are looking at low tier french and german tanks to test the concept, therefore it will cost you a few credits to buy them with a free 50% crew and nothing more.
I was also thinking that for 'historical' reasons some tanks destroyers may be allowed to mount a camo net for example, such equipment could be listed in the 'specification' for each tank - what do you think?
I was also thinking that for 'historical' reasons some tanks destroyers may be allowed to mount a camo net for example, such equipment could be listed in the 'specification' for each tank - what do you think?
Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Dong760 wrote:I was also thinking that for 'historical' reasons some tanks destroyers may be allowed to mount a camo net for example, such equipment could be listed in the 'specification' for each tank - what do you think?
Maybe it can be allowed in some scenarios, but better to start with some simple tank battles.
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Fully prepaired to grab some low tier tanks with 50% crew! I do see why fully trained crews are not allowed (it is just disappointing ).
It will be interesting to see how historical battles will influence tactics, for one
It will be interesting to see how historical battles will influence tactics, for one
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Count me in please:P
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Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Was thinking about this. For example, the French had a lot of FT17s in 1940, mostly armed with machine guns!
We will need to balance any scenario very carefully because it will be impossible otherwise with a Tier 1 pew pew gun
We will need to balance any scenario very carefully because it will be impossible otherwise with a Tier 1 pew pew gun
Re: SGTA Historical Battles
Tell me when you need my Tiger
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